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221349 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2011‑09‑04 Hand operated post drill
Hi guys,

I went and picked up this drill yesterday:
http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/08/17/perceuse_2.jpg.
Unfortunately, it now lacks the handle.
I missed this one:
http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/07/01/3784317835%5B1%5D.jpg a few weeks
ago.

Kind regards,
-- 
Bruno Verachten
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221353 James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> 2011‑09‑04 Re: Hand operated post drill
I am curious to know why you don't like Bruno? Was it something he said?

On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Verachten Bruno wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I went and picked up this drill yesterday:
> http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/08/17/perceuse_2.jpg.
> Unfortunately, it now lacks the handle.
> I missed this one:
> http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/07/01/3784317835%5B1%5D.jpg a few weeks
> ago.
> 
> Kind regards,
> -- 
> Bruno Verachten
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221357 Bill Taggart <w.taggart@v...> 2011‑09‑04 Re: Hand operated post drill
On 9/4/2011 3:40 AM, Verachten Bruno wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I went and picked up this drill yesterday:
> http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/08/17/perceuse_2.jpg.
> Unfortunately, it now lacks the handle.
> I missed this one:
> http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/07/01/3784317835%5B1%5D.jpg a few weeks
> ago.
>
> Kind regards,

Why does it now lack the handle?

That is a way gool, high-gizmo post drill.  I've never seen one like 
that before.  Looks like it mounts on a bench, rather than a post?  And 
has a vise on the back side?

And check out the size of that horizontal flywheel on top!!  Holy cow!

Looks pretty darn top-heavy.

The other one also is way cool.  I've never seen one with fly weights 
instead of a flywheel.  Tres cool.

Thanks for sharing the pics!

- Bill T.
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221362 <roygriggs@v...> 2011‑09‑04 Re: Hand operated post drill
Bruno,
 Does the head swivel to use the vise on the backside?

 Of course if the head swivels, then the vise isn't on the backside it's on the 
other side.

 
Roy Griggs
roygriggs@w...

---- Peter Robinson  wrote: 
> On 04-Sep-11 17:40, Verachten Bruno wrote:
> > I went and picked up this drill yesterday:
> > http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/08/17/perceuse_2.jpg.
> > Unfortunately, it now lacks the handle.
> 
> Hi Bruno, your drill looks wonderful. Who is the manufacturer?
> It's a shame about the handle. What happened to it?
--

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221369 James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
I didn't get a reply to my query, so I am wondering if "Verachten Bruno" is a si
g, or if it is actually a name.

'Verachten" is the German verb, "to despise or hate". I wouldn't have expected s
uch a name from France. A sig perhaps.

Inquiring minds, and all that.....

C'mon, Bruno....Enlighten us. :>) I don't recall a bio.

On Sep 4, 2011, at 10:24 AM, James Thompson wrote:

> I am curious to know why you don't like Bruno? Was it something he said?
> 
> 
> On Sep 4, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Verachten Bruno wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I went and picked up this drill yesterday:
>> http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/08/17/perceuse_2.jpg.
>> Unfortunately, it now lacks the handle.
>> I missed this one:
>> http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/07/01/3784317835%5B1%5D.jpg a few weeks
>> ago.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> -- 
>> Bruno Verachten
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221372 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Verachten Bruno  wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> > From the body casting it looks very much like mine which is made by Fr.
> > Eduard Engels, though mine has the safety option of a flywheeel at the
> top.
> Patrick Leach told me it was a Millers Falls, but I can't confirm, as
> I haven't seen it closely.
> I have been tiresome with the seller (because of my timetable), and he
> lost patience.
>
>
Bruno

After looking at 4 different Millers Falls catalogs, I tentatively
disagree.  While I don't have Mr Leach's background in tools, I don't see
any of the MF bench drills having the fancy attachment point that that drill
has.  None of their's swoop out over the edge of the bench as elegantly as
that one.

I checked 1904, 1912, 1925 & ~1894.  Also, Randy (oldtoolheaven.com) hasn't
gotten that far yet.

Kirk in HMB, CA
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221368 Ed Minch <ruby@m...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
On Sep 5, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Verachten Bruno wrote:

>> The other one also is way cool.  I've never seen one with fly weights
>> instead of a flywheel.  Tres cool.
> Very cool and dangerous...

A question:  Are those spinning balls a flywheel, or a speed  
regulator.  It seems that if the maker wanted a flywheel effect, the  
cheapest and easiest way to get it is with a flywheel - one casting  
that is fixed to the axle.  On the other hand, why regulate the speed  
of a hand driven drill in such an elaborate manner?  And it doesn't  
seem to be adjustable. So what were they thinking?

Ed Minch

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221380 James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
Welcome aboard, Bruno! Now you have a bio posted, and my curiosity is
satisfied. There is a character in a movie named Bruno, and I hate him,
so I thought it possible that you did, too. :>)

Now I am trying to figure out how you make noise with a scrub plane.

On Sep 5, 2011, at 5:37 AM, Verachten Bruno wrote:

>> I didn't get a reply to my query, so I am wondering if "Verachten
>> Bruno" is a sig, or if it is actually a name.
> Sorry guys, that's my name.
>>> 'Verachten" is the German verb, "to despise or hate". I wouldn't
>>> have expected such a name from France. A sig perhaps.
> In fact, that's a german verb, but in my case (and thanks btw to my
> father in law who found that) that's from an old belgium name
> "VRANKEN". So, my belgian ancestors were name VRANKEN, then VERCHTEN,
> and then, Verachten. BTW, I think my parents used to write it with a
> accent, V=E9rachten.
>> As for Bruno, well, it was an old german monk... But when I was born,
> Bruno was a very common first name in France. So, I'm french, live in
> France, was born in France, and have nothing against me or other
> Bruno. ;-)
>>> C'mon, Bruno....Enlighten us. :>) I don't recall a bio.
> That's because I'm shy, and it's difficult for me to speak of myself,
> in English all the more reason! Well, I'm 37, married, and we have 4
> 1/2 twins (boys). I work as a computer analyst, and love working wood
> with old iron. I don't have much time to practice, but love to do it
> when I can (I was asked to stop using the scrub plane yesterday around
> 10pm because of the noise). ;-)
>>>> I am curious to know why you don't like Bruno? Was it something he
>>>> said?
> I hadn't caught your humorous remark.
>> Regards,
> --> Bruno Verachten, France

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221383 James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
There is an old country saying here, "I'm doing the best I can with what I got."

Sounds like that is the case with you. Keep on doing the best you can with whate
ver you have to work with. It works for me.

On Sep 5, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Verachten Bruno wrote:

>> Now I am trying to figure out how you make noise with a scrub plane.
> It seems I had a bad idea when building my temporary workbench.
> I used some kind of torsion box build with 2x4. I screwed the 2x4 to
> the walls of the garage, that happen to be the house walls too.
> My bench stops are all metal btw (ahem, they are screws in fact), and
> that doesn't do any good for deadening the sound.
> Each scrub plane "stroke" (with a "big" chunk of wood removed) echoes
> into the torsion box structure, to the walls of the house.
> SWMBO thought I was using a hammer. :-(
> 
> Now you know all about me, even my poor workbench construction skills. ;-)
> 
> Kind regards,
> -- 
> Bruno Verachten

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221363 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
> Why does it now lack the handle?
The seller (who told me lots of bullshit) picked it up at some place,
knocked it down to carry it later. He went to pick it up later, and
didn't see some parts were missing.

> That is a way gool, high-gizmo post drill. =A0I've never seen one like
> that before. =A0Looks like it mounts on a bench, rather than a post?
> =A0And has a vise on the back side?
It would require a helluva bench! Well, if it layed on the ground, it
would be difficult to operate, so... I think it should be placed on a
brick and mortar bench. I'll see what I can do.

> And check out the size of that horizontal flywheel on top!!
> =A0Holy cow!
33 inches of pure pleasure.

> Looks pretty darn top-heavy.
My back can confirm that. I had scheduled dragging it to the basement,
but I have to buy superhero muscles beforehand.

> The other one also is way cool. =A0I've never seen one with fly
> weights instead of a flywheel. =A0Tres cool.
Very cool and dangerous...

> Thanks for sharing the pics!
That's my pleasure.

Kind regards, --Bruno Verachten, France
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221364 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
Hi Peter,

> your drill looks wonderful. Who is the manufacturer?
I don't know yet. There seems to be a plate missing on the post. I
suppose the manufacturer name was written there.
As I scrape the drill, I may discover something.

> It's a shame about the handle. What happened to it?
Please see my previous email.

> From the body casting it looks very much like mine which is made by Fr.
> Eduard Engels, though mine has the safety option of a flywheeel at the top.
Patrick Leach told me it was a Millers Falls, but I can't confirm, as
I haven't seen it closely.
I have been tiresome with the seller (because of my timetable), and he
lost patience.

Kind regards,
-- 
Bruno Verachten, France
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221365 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
Roy ,

> =A0Does the head swivel to use the vise on the backside?
Yes, the head seems to swivel, as the vise... I still have to derust,
grease and so on to be sure, but it looks like the head and the vise
can swivel...

Kind regards, --Bruno Verachten, France
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221359 Peter Robinson <peter.robinson.old.tools@g...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
On 04-Sep-11 17:40, Verachten Bruno wrote:
> I went and picked up this drill yesterday:
> http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/08/17/perceuse_2.jpg.
> Unfortunately, it now lacks the handle.

Hi Bruno, your drill looks wonderful. Who is the manufacturer?
It's a shame about the handle. What happened to it?

> I missed this one:
> http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/07/01/3784317835%5B1%5D.jpg
The one you missed, goodness, I imagine drilling away and being cracked 
in the head!
 From the body casting it looks very much like mine which is made by Fr. 
Eduard Engels, though mine has the safety option of a flywheeel at the top.
Oh, I see I picked it up in Jan 2006 and the photos were in the old 
galoot image central before it was hacked. I need to dig up the photos 
and put them up again.

regards, Peter

in Brisbane, Australia
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221370 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
> I didn't get a reply to my query, so I am wondering if "Verachten
> Bruno" is a sig, or if it is actually a name.
Sorry guys, that's my name.

> 'Verachten" is the German verb, "to despise or hate". I wouldn't have
> expected such a name from France. A sig perhaps.
In fact, that's a german verb, but in my case (and thanks btw to my
father in law who found that) that's from an old belgium name "VRANKEN".
So, my belgian ancestors were name VRANKEN, then VERCHTEN, and then,
Verachten. BTW, I think my parents used to write it with a accent,
V=E9rachten.

As for Bruno, well, it was an old german monk... But when I was born,
Bruno was a very common first name in France. So, I'm french, live in
France, was born in France, and have nothing against me or other
Bruno. ;-)

> C'mon, Bruno....Enlighten us. :>) I don't recall a bio.
That's because I'm shy, and it's difficult for me to speak of myself, in
English all the more reason! Well, I'm 37, married, and we have 4 1/2
twins (boys). I work as a computer analyst, and love working wood with
old iron. I don't have much time to practice, but love to do it when I
can (I was asked to stop using the scrub plane yesterday around 10pm
because of the noise). ;-)

>> I am curious to know why you don't like Bruno? Was it something
>> he said?
I hadn't caught your humorous remark.

Regards, --Bruno Verachten, France
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221373 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
I should have been cautious about this assertion. He wrote something
like: "modified Millers Falls".
I hope Patrick won't mind if I paste his prose here: " It's a Millers
Falls (made about 40 miles
from where I live) with a user addition of
a governor similar to what a steam engine uses.

 I've never seen such a modification."

There's a thread there that discusses this drill:
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/hand-operated-pillar-drills-t53554-15.html
.

I still have the phone/email of the seller (in France), if anyone
wants to try his luck.

Kind regards,
-- 
Bruno Verachten
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221393 Bill Taggart <w.taggart@v...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
On 9/5/2011 6:55 AM, Ed Minch wrote:
>
> A question:  Are those spinning balls a flywheel, or a speed 
> regulator.  It seems that if the maker wanted a flywheel effect, the 
> cheapest and easiest way to get it is with a flywheel - one casting 
> that is fixed to the axle.  On the other hand, why regulate the speed 
> of a hand driven drill in such an elaborate manner?  And it doesn't 
> seem to be adjustable. So what were they thinking?

Is it possible they provide downward force on the shaft, to press the 
spinning bit into the wood?

- Bill T.
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221382 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2011‑09‑05 Re: Hand operated post drill
> Now I am trying to figure out how you make noise with a scrub plane.
It seems I had a bad idea when building my temporary workbench.
I used some kind of torsion box build with 2x4. I screwed the 2x4 to
the walls of the garage, that happen to be the house walls too.
My bench stops are all metal btw (ahem, they are screws in fact), and
that doesn't do any good for deadening the sound.
Each scrub plane "stroke" (with a "big" chunk of wood removed) echoes
into the torsion box structure, to the walls of the house.
SWMBO thought I was using a hammer. :-(

Now you know all about me, even my poor workbench construction skills. ;-)

Kind regards,
-- 
Bruno Verachten
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221394 Peter Robinson <peter.robinson.old.tools@g...> 2011‑09‑06 Re: Hand operated post drill
On 05-Sep-11 17:53, Verachten Bruno wrote:
>>  From the body casting it looks very much like mine which is made by Fr.
>> Eduard Engels, though mine has the safety option of a flywheeel at the top.
> Patrick Leach told me it was a Millers Falls, but I can't confirm, as
> I haven't seen it closely.

Hmm, just checking, did Patrick say that about the one with the governor 
on the top?
I was meaning that one, the one you didn't buy.
It looks more like a German style drill to me.

regards, Peter

Peter Robinson
in Brisbane, Australia
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221395 Peter Robinson <peter.robinson.old.tools@g...> 2011‑09‑06 Re: Hand operated post drill
On 05-Sep-11 23:49, Verachten Bruno wrote:
> I hope Patrick won't mind if I paste his prose here: " It's a Millers
> Falls (made about 40 miles
> from where I live) with a user addition of
> a governor similar to what a steam engine uses.
> I've never seen such a modification."
Ah, I see you've already answered the question I just sent - oops.

Maybe we need a post drill type study.
It doesn't look like any M-F I have seen but Patrick clearly knows 
otherwise.

regards, Peter

Peter Robinson
in Brisbane, Australia

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221404 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2011‑09‑06 Re: Hand operated post drill
Hi Peter,

>> Patrick Leach told me it was a Millers Falls, but I can't confirm, as
>> I haven't seen it closely.
> Hmm, just checking, did Patrick say that about the one with the governor on
> the top?
> I was meaning that one, the one you didn't buy.
> It looks more like a German style drill to me.
I just don't know where it was made. Yes, Patrick was referring to
this one. I hadn't seen the one I bought yet when I sent him the
picture of the big balls drill.

Kind regards,
-- 
Bruno Verachten
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221428 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2011‑09‑07 Re: Hand operated post drill
Hi Peter,

>> your drill looks wonderful. Who is the manufacturer?
> I don't know yet. There seems to be a plate missing on the post. I
> suppose the manufacturer name was written there.
> As I scrape the drill, I may discover something.
bad luck: http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/09/07/P1030561.JPG
No plate, and no hole where rivets could have been fixed.
http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/09/07/P1030563.JPG

As for the swivelling action:
http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/09/07/P1030567.JPG
http://ez2cu.free.fr/bois/2011/09/07/P1030568.JPG

Kind regards,
-- 
Bruno Verachten
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230545 James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> 2012‑05‑30 Re: Hand operated post drill
I thought that the "magic" formula was ATF with a little acetone. Wasn't that a 
settled issue? Somebody even posted test results. Now Kroil is better? By what s
tandard?

On May 30, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Verachten Bruno wrote:

> John,
> 
>> One word:  Kroil.  Forget WD-40.  You need a rust solvent  and Kroil is the
>> best around.  I could never have complete my post drill  restoration
>> without it.
> Thanks for the tip, I will try to source some in France.
> 
> Kind regards,
> -- 
> Bruno Verachten
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage,
> value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of
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230540 Sgt42RHR@a... 2012‑05‑30 Re: Hand operated post drill
Bruno,
 
One word:  Kroil.  Forget WD-40.  You need a rust solvent  and Kroil is the 
best around.  I could never have complete my post drill  restoration 
without it.
 
John
 
John M. Johnston
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental  illness." Dave Barry  

 
In a message dated 5/30/2012 9:39:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
gounthar@g... writes:

You'd  better not be in a hurry when being me, because I'm slow as can  
be...

>>> your drill looks wonderful. Who is the  manufacturer?
Anyway, I still haven't found the manufacturer of my drill,  still
missing its handle: http://cdn.hubic.me/PZLjyc31Nt8R/perceuse_1.jpg  .
I put it back on its three feets down in the basement, put lots  of
WD-40 and managed to crank it. It now turns, but doesn't go up  and
down (except for changing gears).
As I tried to loosen up the  automatic height mechanism, I ... broke it
(damn cast iron). It began to  move just a little bit, so I put some
more power into loosening it up, and  bam, it broke.
I still have to loosen up a few other parts to get the  remains of the
mechanism. This will involve boring damaged screws, maybe  using a
torch, and so on.
I do hope I won't make any other damage. This  old lady has to live again...
The previous "owner" told me the height  mechanism was working, it just
needed a little lubricant. Well, a lever of  the mechanism was broken,
it should have lit a red alert in my head. All is  my fault. I just
hope it will work again one day (350lbs of unused cast  iron in the
basement is a no-no for you know who...).

Next episode  in a few ... months?

Kind regards,
-- 
Bruno  Verachten
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230546 Sgt42RHR@a... 2012‑05‑30 Re: Hand operated post drill
I stand corrected; second best around and it worked like a champ in  
disseasembling my post drill.  When I run out, I'll mix up some  ATF/Acetone.
 
Cheers,
John
 
John M. Johnston
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental  illness." Dave Barry  

 
In a message dated 5/30/2012 2:06:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
oldmillrat@m... writes:

I  thought that the "magic" formula was ATF with a little acetone. Wasn't 
that a  settled issue? Somebody even posted test results. Now Kroil is 
better? By what  standard?

On May 30, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Verachten Bruno  wrote:

> John,
> 
>> One word:  Kroil.   Forget WD-40.  You need a rust solvent  and Kroil is 
the
>>  best around.  I could never have complete my post drill   restoration
>> without it.
> Thanks for the tip, I will try to  source some in France.
> 
> Kind regards,
> -- 
>  Bruno Verachten
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230534 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2012‑05‑30 Re: Hand operated post drill
You'd better not be in a hurry when being me, because I'm slow as can be...

>>> your drill looks wonderful. Who is the manufacturer?
Anyway, I still haven't found the manufacturer of my drill, still
missing its handle: http://cdn.hubic.me/PZLjyc31Nt8R/perceuse_1.jpg .
I put it back on its three feets down in the basement, put lots of
WD-40 and managed to crank it. It now turns, but doesn't go up and
down (except for changing gears).
As I tried to loosen up the automatic height mechanism, I ... broke it
(damn cast iron). It began to move just a little bit, so I put some
more power into loosening it up, and bam, it broke.
I still have to loosen up a few other parts to get the remains of the
mechanism. This will involve boring damaged screws, maybe using a
torch, and so on.
I do hope I won't make any other damage. This old lady has to live again...
The previous "owner" told me the height mechanism was working, it just
needed a little lubricant. Well, a lever of the mechanism was broken,
it should have lit a red alert in my head. All is my fault. I just
hope it will work again one day (350lbs of unused cast iron in the
basement is a no-no for you know who...).

Next episode in a few ... months?

Kind regards,
-- 
Bruno Verachten
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230556 John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> 2012‑05‑30 Re: Hand operated post drill
Here we go again on that subject.  I'm amazed that there has only be two or
three responses.  Anyway, I too vote for ATF and acetone.  Even so, for
most of the stuff I do, I use Marvel Mystery Oil - mostly because it smells
nice and it works for most of my purposes.

Doc

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM,  wrote:

> I stand corrected; second best around and it worked like a champ in
> disseasembling my post drill.  When I run out, I'll mix up some
>  ATF/Acetone.
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> John M. Johnston
> "There is a fine line between hobby and mental  illness." Dave Barry
>
>
> In a message dated 5/30/2012 2:06:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> oldmillrat@m... writes:
>
> I  thought that the "magic" formula was ATF with a little acetone. Wasn't
> that a  settled issue? Somebody even posted test results. Now Kroil is
> better? By what  standard?
>
>
> On May 30, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Verachten Bruno  wrote:
>
> > John,
> >
> >> One word:  Kroil.   Forget WD-40.  You need a rust solvent  and Kroil is
> the
> >>  best around.  I could never have complete my post drill   restoration
> >> without it.
> > Thanks for the tip, I will try to  source some in France.
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230542 Verachten Bruno <gounthar@g...> 2012‑05‑30 Re: Hand operated post drill
John,

> One word: =A0Kroil. =A0Forget WD-40. =A0You need a rust solvent =A0and
> Kroil is the best around. =A0I could never have complete my post drill
> =A0restoration without it.
Thanks for the tip, I will try to source some in France.

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