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214267 | Thomas Hoyt <oldtruckrus@g...> | 2011‑02‑27 | Drove a Nail (bio update) |
I drove a nail tonight. Not a big deal? Except that it's a nail to hang the 'shoppe clock' (in a place I'll seldom look) in my OWN Wall and In my OWN Shoppe. And, in my OWN house, too. Short reminder - Been a Lutheran Pastor for 25+ years. Born in Louisiana - graduated from Semnary in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. College in Ann Arbor, MI. Served parishes in Arkansas, Tennessee, Texas along the way. Escaped recently into Kentucky. We have running water & 'lectricity if needed. Along the way had a wife for many years, raised a small litter of kids, etc. After a short period being "singled" the Almighty blessed me with one who puts up with me pretty well - and with whom I am very happy. Bought a house. Note: despite what you have heard this is NOT a 'buyers market' - nor - is it a seller's market. (insert comment re. frustration with with the entire economy here.) For the past 25 years I've been living in rented quarters or the "company house", aka a parsonage. Having my own house is a new experience. (handymen are welcome. We have three extra bedrooms and two extra bathrooms. (both with running water.) Ended up with a beautiful home - some 50 years old, very little updates for the past 30+ so we have quite a few projects to get done (I'm not a home repairman so much done by faithful 'others'). Very private back yard with my own groundhog (never seen a groundhog in prior locations - they get eaten my the armadillos & the nutria in Louisiana.) AND a little shoppe space, too. The house is 2,500 sq feet - - and I don't guess that counts the unfinished basement which is underneath the entire house! (yes, except for a 2 car garage... about 2,500 sq feet of 'shoppe space!! After having my told in storage for 3+ years it's been quite interesting finding, discovering, repairing, etc... the old collec.... err... group of tools. Some of them have tails, but trying to use the one's without them. It's more peaceful like that, as you know. So, after a while... I guess I found a need to hang the clock. Old Tool content - used a very old hammer. Things are well.. except for when they aren't. Happy to be around. (yes, that's over 2,000 sq ft.) Mark L. in Austin - eat your heart out. Love to all. Thomas Hoyt Winchester, KY ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214268 | "James Shaw" <jeshaw2@o...> | 2011‑02‑27 | RE: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Still following in the ways of the Carpenter are you? He used the non-tailed tools also. Welcome to this list of galoots. JimS > -----Original Message----- > From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools- > bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Thomas Hoyt > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:02 PM > To: oldtools > Subject: [OldTools] Drove a Nail (bio update) > > I drove a nail tonight. > > Not a big deal? Except that it's a nail to hang the 'shoppe clock' (in a > place I'll seldom look) in my OWN Wall and In my OWN Shoppe. And, in my > OWN > house, too. > > Short reminder - Been a Lutheran Pastor for 25+ years. Born in Louisiana > - > graduated from Semnary in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. College in Ann Arbor, MI. > Served parishes in Arkansas, Tennessee, Texas along the way. Escaped > recently into Kentucky. We have running water & 'lectricity if needed. > Along the way had a wife for many years, raised a small litter of kids, > etc. After a short period being "singled" the Almighty blessed me with > one > who puts up with me pretty well - and with whom I am very happy. > > Bought a house. Note: despite what you have heard this is NOT a 'buyers > market' - nor - is it a seller's market. (insert comment re. frustration > with with the entire economy here.) For the past 25 years I've been > living > in rented quarters or the "company house", aka a parsonage. Having my own > house is a new experience. (handymen are welcome. We have three extra > bedrooms and two extra bathrooms. (both with running water.) > > Ended up with a beautiful home - some 50 years old, very little updates > for > the past 30+ so we have quite a few projects to get done (I'm not a home > repairman so much done by faithful 'others'). Very private back yard with > my own groundhog (never seen a groundhog in prior locations - they get > eaten > my the armadillos & the nutria in Louisiana.) > > AND a little shoppe space, too. The house is 2,500 sq feet - - and I > don't > guess that counts the unfinished basement which is underneath the entire > house! (yes, except for a 2 car garage... about 2,500 sq feet of 'shoppe > space!! > > After having my told in storage for 3+ years it's been quite interesting > finding, discovering, repairing, etc... the old collec.... err... group of > tools. Some of them have tails, but trying to use the one's without them. > It's more peaceful like that, as you know. > > So, after a while... I guess I found a need to hang the clock. > > Old Tool content - used a very old hammer. > > Things are well.. except for when they aren't. > > Happy to be around. > > (yes, that's over 2,000 sq ft.) > > Mark L. in Austin - eat your heart out. > > Love to all. > > Thomas Hoyt > Winchester, KY > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, > value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of > traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > > To change your subscription options: > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > > To read the FAQ: > http://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html > > OldTools archive: http://swingleydev.com/archive/ > > OldTools@r... > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214276 | Robert Hutchins <rhhutchins@h...> | 2011‑02‑28 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Glad you didn't hit your finger and raise a blood blister, Tom! Even gladder that you are in a nice new house all your own and that you have all that potential shop space. I remember the day I met you at a tool sale in Austin and we met Mark Lovett Wells and Mateo and had a great lunch and even finer time "passin' howdy". Congratulations! We'll look forward to other reports. Bob Hutchins Temple, TX, USA On 2/27/2011 9:02 PM, Thomas Hoyt wrote: > I drove a nail tonight. > > Not a big deal? Except that it's a nail to hang the 'shoppe clock' (in a > place I'll seldom look) in my OWN Wall and In my OWN Shoppe. And, in my OWN > house, too. > > Short reminder - Been a Lutheran Pastor for 25+ years. Born in Louisiana - > graduated from Semnary in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. College in Ann Arbor, MI. > Served parishes in Arkansas, Tennessee, Texas along the way. Escaped > recently into Kentucky. We have running water& 'lectricity if needed. > Along the way had a wife for many years, raised a small litter of kids, > etc. After a short period being "singled" the Almighty blessed me with one > who puts up with me pretty well - and with whom I am very happy. > > Bought a house. Note: despite what you have heard this is NOT a 'buyers > market' - nor - is it a seller's market. (insert comment re. frustration > with with the entire economy here.) For the past 25 years I've been living > in rented quarters or the "company house", aka a parsonage. Having my own > house is a new experience. (handymen are welcome. We have three extra > bedrooms and two extra bathrooms. (both with running water.) > > Ended up with a beautiful home - some 50 years old, very little updates for > the past 30+ so we have quite a few projects to get done (I'm not a home > repairman so much done by faithful 'others'). Very private back yard with > my own groundhog (never seen a groundhog in prior locations - they get eaten > my the armadillos& the nutria in Louisiana.) > > AND a little shoppe space, too. The house is 2,500 sq feet - - and I don't > guess that counts the unfinished basement which is underneath the entire > house! (yes, except for a 2 car garage... about 2,500 sq feet of 'shoppe > space!! > > After having my told in storage for 3+ years it's been quite interesting > finding, discovering, repairing, etc... the old collec.... err... group of > tools. Some of them have tails, but trying to use the one's without them. > It's more peaceful like that, as you know. > > So, after a while... I guess I found a need to hang the clock. > > Old Tool content - used a very old hammer. > > Things are well.. except for when they aren't. > > Happy to be around. > > (yes, that's over 2,000 sq ft.) > > Mark L. in Austin - eat your heart out. > > Love to all. > > Thomas Hoyt > Winchester, KY > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, > value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of > traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > > To change your subscription options: > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > > To read the FAQ: > http://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html > > OldTools archive: http://swingleydev.com/archive/ > > OldTools@r... > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214278 | Bill Ghio <bghio@m...> | 2011‑02‑28 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Thomas Hoyt wrote: > I drove a nail tonight. > > Not a big deal? Except that it's a nail to hang the 'shoppe clock' (in a > place I'll seldom look) in my OWN Wall and In my OWN Shoppe. And, in my OWN > house, too. Now you're in for it. Start driving nails and you need more hammers! Congrats. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214290 | "Dennis Yanan" <dyanan@c...> | 2011‑02‑28 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Tom- congrats on the house. given that you're on this list, I'd say that you're better off than the last owner of the house I used to live in outside of pittsburgh. That gentlemen was a Presbyterian minister, and one of the many things that were said about him was that "He followed the carpenter, but he sure as heck wasn't one!" My ex-wife used to laugh whenever I was doing corrective work, because various terms would be echoing through the ductwork - usually starting with "What the . . . ? How did he manage to do that? *&%^ing Larry!!!" no lie, I went to replace the return air vents, and found that they'd been attached to the walls w/ Liquid Nails (very strong Construction Adhesive, usually used for attaching plywood to floor joists, Jeff). That's when I learned how to patch plaster walls - about 3 sq. feet of plaster came off w/out warning. I won't go into the attempts at electrical work, or the door that was hung w/ the manual turn for the deadbolt on the OUTSIDE! OT content - nothing really, other than shared experiences in home ownership, and using hand tools to fix them. Dennis - in very wet and stormy SE Pennsylvania -------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Hoyt" |
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214347 | walter cheever <waltche@q...> | 2011‑03‑02 | RE: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Tom=2C Congratulations on your house purchase. As one who has lived in 4 old houses of varying ages=2C I can tell you that you don't own an old house=2C they own you. You'll find out. Anyone want to make book on how long it is before we hear him wondering how to get a bigger shop...... Enjoy. Walt C Saw his shop emerge from the snow in melting weather=2C now it's below 0 again=2C > Date: Sun=2C 27 Feb 2011 22:02:16 -0500 From: oldtruckrus@g... To: > oldtools@r... Subject: [OldTools] Drove a Nail (bio update) >> I drove a nail tonight. Not a big deal? Except that it's a nail to >> hang the 'shoppe clock' (in a > place I'll seldom look) in my OWN Wall and In my OWN Shoppe. And=2C in > my OWN house=2C too. >> Short reminder - Been a Lutheran Pastor for 25+ years. Born in >> Louisiana - > graduated from Semnary in Ft. Wayne=2C Indiana. College in Ann > Arbor=2C MI. Served parishes in Arkansas=2C Tennessee=2C Texas along > the way. Escaped recently into Kentucky. We have running water & > 'lectricity if needed. Along the way had a wife for many years=2C > raised a small litter of kids=2C etc. After a short period being > "singled" the Almighty blessed me with one who puts up with me pretty > well - and with whom I am very happy. >> Bought a house. Note: despite what you have heard this is NOT a >> 'buyers > market' - nor - is it a seller's market. (insert comment re. > frustration with with the entire economy here.) For the past 25 years > I've been living in rented quarters or the "company house"=2C aka a > parsonage. Having my own house is a new experience. (handymen are > welcome. We have three extra bedrooms and two extra bathrooms. (both > with running water.) >> Ended up with a beautiful home - some 50 years old=2C very little >> updates for > the past 30+ so we have quite a few projects to get done (I'm not a > home repairman so much done by faithful 'others'). Very private back > yard with my own groundhog (never seen a groundhog in prior locations > - they get eaten my the armadillos & the nutria in Louisiana.) >> AND a little shoppe space=2C too. The house is 2=2C500 sq feet - - >> and I don't > guess that counts the unfinished basement which is underneath the > entire house! (yes=2C except for a 2 car garage... about 2=2C500 sq > feet of 'shoppe space!! >> After having my told in storage for 3+ years it's been quite >> interesting > finding=2C discovering=2C repairing=2C etc... the old collec.... > err... group of tools. Some of them have tails=2C but trying to use > the one's without them. It's more peaceful like that=2C as you know. >> So=2C after a while... I guess I found a need to hang the clock. Old >> Tool content - used a very old hammer. Things are well.. except for >> when they aren't. Happy to be around. (yes=2C that's over 2=2C000 sq >> ft.) Mark L. in Austin - eat your heart out. Love to all. Thomas Hoyt > Winchester=2C KY > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > aficionados=2C both collectors and users=2C to discuss the history=2C > usage=2C value=2C location=2C availability=2C collectibility=2C and > restoration of traditional handtools=2C especially woodworking tools. >> To change your subscription options: > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools >> To read the FAQ: > http://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html >> OldTools archive: http://swingleydev.com/archive/ OldTools@r... > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------ |
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214353 | w.taggart@v... | 2011‑03‑02 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Mar 2, 2011, walter cheever |
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214501 | Mark Lovett Wells <mark@m...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Thomas Hoyt |
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214502 | "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> | 2011‑03‑09 | RE: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
SNIP (I work out of a 9x19 garage, which Tom has visited.) This is my Sputnik Moment. The Space Race is on! Good thing I can define the rules: "Who can complete more projects per square foot of shop space?" END SNIP Ok, you're on. I work out of an 11x20 room in my garage. Just finished a solid walnut cradle which I also designed from scratch (pictures soon), and am working on an oak tool chest and a walnut hope chest. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214506 | Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Foul Foul This whole project process is rigged. It requires completing stuff. My money goes to Mike S (nicknaylo), as his shop is TINY. Kirk in HMB, CA, where it might dry out today. On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:08 AM, |
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214509 | "Joe Parker" <joeparker@s...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Ok, it's time for an expert to chime in (Ph.D. Mathematics, Caltech, 1976). "space divided into anything" is the same as "dividing number of projects by shop space", i.e. (# of Projects)/(shop space). So, Scott wins unless his number of projects ("anything") is zero. In that case we enter a whole different realm of mathematics and Scott needs to get to work! I'll leave the question of measurement units to the physicists out there. Joe Parker - a PHooey Doctor, not a Money Doctor Los Gatos, CA ------ Original Message ------ Received: 08:08 AM PST, 03/09/2011 From: w.taggart@v... To: stagers@m... Cc: oldtools@r... Subject: Re: Re: [OldTools] Drove a Nail (bio update) On Mar 9, 2011, Scott Stager |
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214503 | Scott Stager <stagers@m...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Mark Lovett Wells wrote: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Thomas Hoyt |
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214504 | w.taggart@v... | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Mar 9, 2011, Scott Stager |
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214505 | <roygriggs@v...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
GG, Well heck, I gotta be in the running for this one...1500 sq. ft. one project th is year. I recently constructed a 21" x 21" wooden square per Chris S. and P/W.. . If we can count projects "in the works" my avg. might go up a little. Oh,Oh, can we count de-construction? I recently stripped and destroyed a termit e barf entertainment center (which I now need to replace). A project my wife tol d her best friend I would be glad to do. Roy Griggs roygriggs@w... www.shavingsandsawdust.com ---- w.taggart@v... wrote: > > > On Mar 9, 2011, Scott Stager |
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214507 | w.taggart@v... | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Mar 9, 2011, Kirk Eppler |
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214513 | Mike Siemsen <mike@g...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
A shop is always too small no matter how large you build it, usually by a factor of 15% or more. If you plan on making a 20 foot long canoe your shop will be too small. If you are going out there to escape the house and de-rust tools it should be fine. 8 x 12 is pretty small, especially if you have guests over. It is also a lot better than what you have now. Mike On 03/09/2011 11:12 AM, Tom Dugan wrote: > > OK, not that I'm in danger of actually completing any projects, but I'd like to hear some opinions about something I'm contemplating. > > > Right now both of my "shops" are in unheated, un-airconditioned spaces, leav ing me little time to work in comfort. I'm kicking around the idea of sealing an d insulating an 8X12 shed that can be heated and cooled with little trouble. > > > Is 8X12 going to be big enough? Obviously, wood storage and large power tool s won't live there. > > -T > PS - Fitted out, the interior would be more like 7X11. > > >> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:59:19 -0600 >> From: w.taggart@v... >> To: eppler.kirk@g... >> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [OldTools] Drove a Nail (bio update) >> CC: oldtools@r... >> >> >> >> On Mar 9, 2011, Kirk Eppler |
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214514 | Matthew Groves <matthew.groves@u...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Phil has neglected to mention that he's also taken on a local apprentice of sorts, whos projects I do believe reside (and thus take up space) at Phil's house. On Mar 9, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Phil Washburn wrote: > I think I have a shot at this one. I have completed two projects in > the last three months. A cutting board I promised SWMBO two years ago > and an night stand to match the headboard I built five years ago. > Can't even say how long ago I promised that one. I also am almost done > with a new workbench. >> All this has been accomplished in my garage workshop which if you >> factor in family storage is only about 100 sq. ft. And I do have >> pictures to show just how messy...and small it is. Phil W > Las Cruces, NM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214516 | w.taggart@v... | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Mar 9, 2011, Tom Dugan |
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214517 | w.taggart@v... | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Mar 9, 2011, Bill Ghio |
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214521 | Thomas Conroy <booktoolcutter@y...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Kirk Eppler wrote: "My money goes to Mike S (nicknaylo), as his shop is TINY." Yeah, but he also completes things. Quite often, is my impression. Surely there are some of us who have gone for a decade or two without completion? Tom Conroy Berkeley Out of contention (as I have already completed something this year) unless you f actor in the ratio of stalled projects to completed projects. Or maybe projects started to projects completed (similar, but not quite the same). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214522 | Matt Williams <exec_matt@y...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
I am a Craigslist bottom feeder and over the years have accumulated enough free insulation to fully insulate my 25x40 barn.=C2=A0 Not as easy as just buying what you need but very=C2=A0cost effective! =C2=A0Matt Williams SKILL SAW =E2=80=93 A portable cutting tool used to make studs too short. ________________________________ From: Tom Dugan |
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214523 | Andy Cohen <acohen1644@g...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
This sounds like an opportunity to add a "short end" to any structure that's tall enough to tax. On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Ray Sheley |
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214508 | Tom Dugan <tom_dugan@h...> | 2011‑03‑09 | RE: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
OK=2C not that I'm in danger of actually completing any projects=2C but I'd like to hear some opinions about something I'm contemplating. Right now both of my "shops" are in unheated=2C un-airconditioned spaces=2C leaving me little time to work in comfort. I'm kicking around the idea of sealing and insulating an 8X12 shed that can be heated and cooled with little trouble. Is 8X12 going to be big enough? Obviously=2C wood storage and large power tools won't live there. -T PS - Fitted out=2C the interior would be more like 7X11. > Date: Wed=2C 9 Mar 2011 10:59:19 -0600 From: w.taggart@v... To: > eppler.kirk@g... Subject: Re: Re: Re: [OldTools] Drove a Nail > (bio update) > CC: oldtools@r... >>>> On Mar 9=2C 2011=2C Kirk Eppler |
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214510 | Ed Fisher <ed.edwardgfisher.fisher@g...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
The only advantage that I see to an 8x12 shed is that would be untaxed in New Hampshire. Anything over 100 sq feet is taxed. :-) I would build a couple of them, one for each type of project. On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Joe Parker |
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214511 | Tom Dugan <tom_dugan@h...> | 2011‑03‑09 | RE: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
The shed already exists. Otherwise I'd build it bigger. -T > Date: Wed=2C 9 Mar 2011 12:20:46 -0500 Subject: Re: Re: [OldTools] > Drove a Nail (bio update) From: ed.edwardgfisher.fisher@g... To: > joeparker@s... > CC: stagers@m...=3B oldtools@r... >> The only advantage that I see to an 8x12 shed is that would be >> untaxed in > New Hampshire. Anything over 100 sq feet is taxed. :-) >> I would build a couple of them=2C one for each type of project. On >> Wed=2C Mar 9=2C 2011 at 12:17 PM=2C Joe Parker >> |
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214512 | Phil Washburn <Phil.Washburn@u...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
SNIP (I work out of a 9x19 garage, which Tom has visited.) This is my Sputnik Moment. The Space Race is on! Good thing I can define the rules: "Who can complete more projects per square foot of shop space?" Unsnip I think I have a shot at this one. I have completed two projects in the last three months. A cutting board I promised SWMBO two years ago and an night stand to match the headboard I built five years ago. Can't even say how long ago I promised that one. I also am almost done with a new workbench. All this has been accomplished in my garage workshop which if you factor in family storage is only about 100 sq. ft. And I do have pictures to show just how messy...and small it is. Phil W Las Cruces, NM PS Special thanks to Matthew Groves for his donation of Red Oak for the night stand. Thanks for getting me hooked on this thing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214515 | Bill Ghio <bghio@m...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Mar 9, 2011, at 11:59 AM, w.taggart@v... wrote: > > > - Who also gained a little more potential space last night in the garage, wi th the sale of the spare car. Noooo, Bill, not the Miata?!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214518 | "Ray Sheley" <rsheley@r...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
In my particular town in N.Y. the same rule applies, along with the proviso that it also not exceed 11' in height. Since my lot slopes and I intended to build my shed on cement pilings my question was which end? ( The short end.) Since N.Y. state property taxes are so high it was important that I don't add to the load. I have (2) wood sheds 8' x 12' x 11' hi (Short end) in my yard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Fisher" Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Re: [OldTools] Drove a Nail (bio update) > The only advantage that I see to an 8x12 shed is that would be untaxed in > New Hampshire. Anything over 100 sq feet is taxed. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214519 | Tom Dugan <tom_dugan@h...> | 2011‑03‑09 | RE: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
The canoes already get built in the garage. The shed would be for joinery=2C mostly. -T > Date: Wed=2C 9 Mar 2011 11:24:08 -0600 From: mike@g... To: > oldtools@r... Subject: Re: [OldTools] Drove a Nail (bio update) >> A shop is always too small no matter how large you build it=2C >> usually by> a factor of 15% or more. If you plan on making a 20 foot >> long canoe your> shop will be too small. If you are going out there >> to escape the house> and de-rust tools it should be fine. 8 x 12 is >> pretty small=2C especially> if you have guests over. It is also a lot >> better than what you have now. > Mike >> On 03/09/2011 11:12 AM=2C Tom Dugan wrote: > > OK=2C not that I'm in danger of actually completing any projects=2C > > but I'd like to hear some opinions about something I'm > > contemplating. > > > > Right now both of my "shops" are in unheated=2C un-airconditioned > > spaces=2C leaving me little time to work in comfort. I'm kicking > > around the idea of sealing and insulating an 8X12 shed that can be > > heated and cooled with little trouble. > > > > Is 8X12 going to be big enough? Obviously=2C wood storage and large > > power tools won't live there. > > > > -T > > PS - Fitted out=2C the interior would be more like 7X11. > > > > > >> Date: Wed=2C 9 Mar 2011 10:59:19 -0600 From: w.taggart@v... To: > >> eppler.kirk@g... Subject: Re: Re: Re: [OldTools] Drove a Nail (bio > >> update) > >> CC: oldtools@r... > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mar 9=2C 2011=2C Kirk Eppler |
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214520 | Tom Dugan <tom_dugan@h...> | 2011‑03‑09 | RE: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Bill T. asks: >> What about the possibility of insulating one of your other=2C larger >> spaces? >> I just called the insulation contractor today about >> spraying cellulose into the open walls of my garage - primarily to >> help keep that end of the house the same temp as the rest of the >> house. The big room above the garage always is too cold in the winter >> and too hot in the summer. I'm hoping that insulating the garage and >> enclosing the walls will help that.>> - Bill T. Sealing the one car garage=2C aka the current shop=2C is another option=2C but that's about 5 times the size and hence about 25 times the effort and cost. The shed would be quick and relatively cheap. -T ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------ |
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214528 | Ed Minch <ruby@m...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
On Mar 9, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Joe Parker wrote: > I'll leave the question of measurement units to the physicists out > there. What if you don't have a shop and you made something? I am thinking of that guy turning the chess pieces on the sidewalk with his foot. Or is the sidewalk his shop, and therefore very large? Ed Minch ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214546 | Don Schwartz <dkschwar@t...> | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
What about projects 'in planning', 'under consideration', and 'just barely conceived'? Do they count? Don, hoping this turn in the weather lasts for a while... On 3/9/2011 1:02 PM, Thomas Conroy wrote: > Kirk Eppler wrote: > > "My money goes to Mike S (nicknaylo), as his shop is TINY." > > > Yeah, but he also completes things. Quite often, is my impression. Surely th ere are some of us who have gone for a decade or two without completion? > > Tom Conroy > Berkeley > > Out of contention (as I have already completed something this year) unless y ou factor in the ratio of stalled projects to completed projects. Or maybe proje cts started to projects completed (similar, but not quite the same). > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool > aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, > value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of > traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > > To change your subscription options: > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > > To read the FAQ: > http://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html > > OldTools archive: http://swingleydev.com/archive/ > > OldTools@r... > http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > -- I hear, and I imagine; I see, and I understand; I do, and I remember forever. fr om R.A. Salaman, Dictionary of Woodworking Tools ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214545 | "andy baughn" <badandy0442@c...> | 2011‑03‑09 | RE: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Ok in Illinois my bench was a 5 gallon bucket, the shop was not much bigger. I made a chair, never finished it. It is out in the garage somewhere. Just needs a seat. Our apartment in Indy I used the spare bedroom (the half that wasn't full of junk). Tablesaw, router and a few hand tools. Tried using the wall as a planing stop. Dind't work. I did build my brother a small mahogany table for his wedding. He still has it in his house. Bad Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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214558 | nicknaylo@a... | 2011‑03‑09 | Re: Drove a Nail (bio update) |
Thanks for the vote of confidence Kirk, Tom, but in my defense I'mcurrently working on two projects, a plank chair that was started inaught five when I glued up the seat and set it aside, and a modellapstrake boat that was laid out in '03 and sat idle till about amonth ago. Michael-144 square feet of piled to the rafters galootism, with a justunder (or is it over) six foot bench, of which I use the two thirdsnearest the left side face vise. Kirk Eppler wrote: "My money goes to Mike S (nicknaylo), as his shop is TINY." Yeah, but he also completes things. Quite often, is my impression.Surely there are some of us who have gone for a decade or two without completion? Tom Conroy Berkeley Out of contention (as I have already completed something this year)unless you factor in the ratio of stalled projects to completed projects. Or maybeprojects started to projects completed (similar, but not quite the same). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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