>I love beer,
> And every once in a while
> I even build something.

Hey John.  I can tell that we're going to get along fine.  Can I offer
you a home brew?

PK
Don't play a guitar, but I listen real good.
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(Apologies if this is copy #2 of my bio; that's not a sign that I want you to
really, really pay attention to me.)

So in scanning list archives and the list FAQ (looking for a reason people
make clarifying asides to someone named Jeff, honestly) I discovered that
it's customary to post a bio as an official introduction/announcement. That's
not usually my style with discussion lists, but here goes ("A man said to
the Old Tools list, 'List! I exist!'" etc).

I'm not a hand tool user (or Old Hand Tool User) for any philosophical
reason involving wood. I've been a guitar player (classical and steel
string fingerstyle) for 18 of my 30 years, and while I can imagine my
life without woodworking, I can't imagine it without guitar. Hence:
anything that can bite my fingers off is not allowed in my shop. I'm
also suffering from slight hearing loss, and so I'm not terribly
welcoming of any tool that encourages that to continue. I'm not militant
about brand or age of my hand tool, so long as it's a hand tool that
sits still and behaves; I have both famous-ish brand name and no-name
older chisels that I use quite happily alongside newer tools.

This is, quite likely, one of the few times you'll hear a peep out of me, as
I'm a bit underqualified to respond to some of the specific questions posted
here on tool history, finishing, troubleshooting mistakes, and so forth. But
I've learned a great deal so far, and there's a decided lack of "should I buy
Lie-Nielsen or old Stanley" threads here, which I find a bit tiresome when I
read other sites. Feels pretty comfortable so far.

So my name's John, I live outside Rochester, NY, I sit in a cubicle all
day and write XML, I play guitar, I love beer, I moonlight for a baseball
publication, and my wife makes fun of me because I stare at the tool photos
in Garrett Hack's books before I go to bed. And every once in a while
I even build something.

Thanks for reading,

J
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-----Original Message-----
From: oldtools-bounces@r...
[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of John Erhardt
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:57 PM
To: oldtools@r...
Subject: [OldTools] New-ish member bio

> there's a decided lack of "should I buy
> Lie-Nielsen or old Stanley" threads here

You could start one.  You might just have.

Welcome to the Porch!

- Bill Taggart
- Richmond, VA

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John:

Welcome to the porch.  However as a guitar player myself, I gotta warn you
-- hand tools bite, too.  I haven't played in a month or so and have lost my
calluses, because of a festered splinter under the nail on my right index
finger (and I play with my nails), followed by a blood blister on the end of
my left ring finger where I smashed it.  Chisels can be exciting, too.

Cheers!

Joseph Sullivan

-----Original Message-----
From: oldtools-bounces@r...
[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of John Erhardt
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 6:57 PM
To: oldtools@r...
Subject: [OldTools] New-ish member bio

(Apologies if this is copy #2 of my bio; that's not a sign that I want you
to
really, really pay attention to me.)

So in scanning list archives and the list FAQ (looking for a reason people
make clarifying asides to someone named Jeff, honestly) I discovered that
it's customary to post a bio as an official introduction/announcement.
That's
not usually my style with discussion lists, but here goes ("A man said to
the Old Tools list, 'List! I exist!'" etc).

I'm not a hand tool user (or Old Hand Tool User) for any philosophical
reason involving wood. I've been a guitar player (classical and steel
string fingerstyle) for 18 of my 30 years, and while I can imagine my
life without woodworking, I can't imagine it without guitar. Hence:
anything that can bite my fingers off is not allowed in my shop. I'm
also suffering from slight hearing loss, and so I'm not terribly
welcoming of any tool that encourages that to continue. I'm not militant
about brand or age of my hand tool, so long as it's a hand tool that
sits still and behaves; I have both famous-ish brand name and no-name
older chisels that I use quite happily alongside newer tools.

This is, quite likely, one of the few times you'll hear a peep out of me, as
I'm a bit underqualified to respond to some of the specific questions posted
here on tool history, finishing, troubleshooting mistakes, and so forth. But
I've learned a great deal so far, and there's a decided lack of "should I
buy
Lie-Nielsen or old Stanley" threads here, which I find a bit tiresome when I
read other sites. Feels pretty comfortable so far.

So my name's John, I live outside Rochester, NY, I sit in a cubicle all
day and write XML, I play guitar, I love beer, I moonlight for a baseball
publication, and my wife makes fun of me because I stare at the tool photos
in Garrett Hack's books before I go to bed. And every once in a while
I even build something.

Thanks for reading,

J
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After pondering that sage question for some time, it seems that the 
proper answer is that you probably "need" both!  :)

Tim
Thinking about the next batch of home brew...

Bill Taggart wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldtools-bounces@r...
> [mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of John Erhardt
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:57 PM
> To: oldtools@r...
> Subject: [OldTools] New-ish member bio
>
>   
>> there's a decided lack of "should I buy
>> Lie-Nielsen or old Stanley" threads here
>>     
>
> You could start one.  You might just have.
>
> Welcome to the Porch!
>
> - Bill Taggart
> - Richmond, VA
>
>   
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________________________________

De: oldtools-bounces@r... en nombre de John Erhardt Enviado el: mar
    18/03/2008 23:57 Para: oldtools@r... Asunto: [OldTools] New-ish
    member bio

(Apologies if this is copy #2 of my bio; that's not a sign that I want
you to really, really pay attention to me.)

So in scanning list archives and the list FAQ (looking for a reason
people make clarifying asides to someone named Jeff, honestly) I
discovered that it's customary to post a bio as an official
introduction/announcement. That's not usually my style with discussion
lists, but here goes ("A man said to the Old Tools list, 'List! I
exist!'" etc).

I'm not a hand tool user (or Old Hand Tool User) for any philosophical
reason involving wood. I've been a guitar player (classical and steel
string fingerstyle) for 18 of my 30 years, and while I can imagine my
life without woodworking, I can't imagine it without guitar. Hence:
anything that can bite my fingers off is not allowed in my shop. I'm
also suffering from slight hearing loss, and so I'm not terribly
welcoming of any tool that encourages that to continue. I'm not militant
about brand or age of my hand tool, so long as it's a hand tool that
sits still and behaves; I have both famous-ish brand name and no-name
older chisels that I use quite happily alongside newer tools.

This is, quite likely, one of the few times you'll hear a peep out of
me, as I'm a bit underqualified to respond to some of the specific
questions posted here on tool history, finishing, troubleshooting
mistakes, and so forth. But I've learned a great deal so far, and
there's a decided lack of "should I buy Lie-Nielsen or old Stanley"
threads here, which I find a bit tiresome when I read other sites. Feels
pretty comfortable so far.

So my name's John, I live outside Rochester, NY, I sit in a cubicle all
day and write XML, I play guitar, I love beer, I moonlight for a
baseball publication, and my wife makes fun of me because I stare at the
tool photos in Garrett Hack's books before I go to bed. And every once
in a while I even build something.

Thanks for reading,

J
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John Erhardt wrote:
>  I'm
> also suffering from slight hearing loss, and so I'm not terribly
> welcoming of any tool that encourages that to continue.

You might want to be careful IF you get into pig-sticker
mortise chisels and large mallets. The sounds generated
whilst using these is rather "high impact"

   BugBear
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