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274705 Chuck Taylor 2021‑10‑16 Stanley Goldenberg Chisels
Gentle Galoots,

Some years ago (20?) I bought a 12mm (1/2", Paddy) Stanley Goldenberg bevel-
edged chisel from Darrell Six at a PNTC meeting. It takes and holds an edge
well, and I like the way it feels in my hand and the way it handles in use. I
started looking for more. As of today, I am up to 7, shown here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzdgt8xw9uoblgx/StanleyGoldenbergChisels.jpg?dl=0

All have beveled edges except for the 22 mm size.

Jean Gustav Goldenberg established his first factory in 1835 in Dorlisheim,
Alsace, France (near the German border). Some of the company's history can be
found here:

https://www.finewoodworking.com/forum/french-plane 

Quoting from that link,

"In the 1970’s, Goldenberg and the tool portion of Peugeot entered into a
cooperative agreement and formed the company SICFO (Société Industrialist et
Commerciale Française d'Outillage) [French Industrial and Commercial Tool
Company]. In 1986, SICFO was purchased by the British arm of Stanley."

That suggests that Stanley Goldenberg chisels were produced no earlier than
1986. I guess that makes them only "somewhat old tools." There are no doubt
better chisels out there, but these chisels have become the ones I reach for
first.

Please consider this a WTB for other sizes of Stanley Goldenberg bevel-edged
chisels, especially 3mm, 25mm, and 30mm.

Cheers,
Chuck Taylor
north of Seattle USA
274707 Greg Isola <gregorywisola@g...> 2021‑10‑16 Re: Stanley Goldenberg Chisels
Chuck has a very spiffy (and growing) set of chisels:

>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzdgt8xw9uoblgx/StanleyGoldenbergChisels.jpg?dl=0
>
> Thanks for sharing this, Chuck. I've heard of Stanley Goldenberg chisels
before (all good things, probably in the Porch archives), but don't think
I've ever seen a real one in the wild. Really interesting, and that's one
of the nicest sets of '80s-era chisels I've seen. Very cool.

Greg Isola
Alameda, CA
who also came of age in the '80s and doesn't look half that good!
274709 gary allan may 2021‑10‑16 Re: Stanley Goldenberg Chisels
Hi Chuck---
  I buy re-habbable tools all the time at my local Habitat For Humanity thrift
outlet. They used to put all the stuff out there, and you could find the most
amazing things for cheap. The last five years or so, something's changed and one
practically *never* finds any treasures in the handtool line. I think they're
cherry-pickin'.
  Yesterday though, I found a 1/2" Witherby socket paring chisel, hammered hard
and covered with paint. Underneath, with just a few minute's work, a wonderful
tool.  I own only a few Witherbys, cause I trade 'em for C E Jennings when I can
make it to the PNTC meetings. This one, though, I'm keeping---why did I start to
tell this story?  OH, I saw a nice boxed set of 6 or 8 Goldenbergs there for
$190 (!) about ten years back, and almost bought 'em. REALLY Nice chisels: the
only thing that stopped me is I never spent that much for ANY tool, in my life.
I'll keep my eyes open for the other not so minty kind, and you keep yours open
for CEJ. Deal?
              

                          yr pl gam in OlyWA?USA


 

    On Friday, October 15, 2021, 05:10:24 PM PDT, Chuck Taylor via groups.io
 wrote:
 
 Gentle Galoots,

Some years ago (20?) I bought a 12mm (1/2", Paddy) Stanley Goldenberg bevel-
edged chisel from Darrell Six at a PNTC meeting. It takes and holds an edge
well, and I like the way it feels in my hand and the way it handles in use. I
started looking for more. As of today, I am up to 7, shown here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzdgt8xw9uoblgx/StanleyGoldenbergChisels.jpg?dl=0

All have beveled edges except for the 22 mm size.

Jean Gustav Goldenberg established his first factory in 1835 in Dorlisheim,
Alsace, France (near the German border). Some of the company's history can be
found here:

https://www.finewoodworking.com/forum/french-plane 

Quoting from that link,

"In the 1970’s, Goldenberg and the tool portion of Peugeot entered into a
cooperative agreement and formed the company SICFO (Société Industrialist et
Commerciale Française d'Outillage) [French Industrial and Commercial Tool
Company]. In 1986, SICFO was purchased by the British arm of Stanley."

That suggests that Stanley Goldenberg chisels were produced no earlier than
1986. I guess that makes them only "somewhat old tools." There are no doubt
better chisels out there, but these chisels have become the ones I reach for
first.

Please consider this a WTB for other sizes of Stanley Goldenberg bevel-edged
chisels, especially 3mm, 25mm, and 30mm.

Cheers,
Chuck Taylor
north of Seattle USA
274711 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2021‑10‑17 Re: Stanley Goldenberg Chisels
Gary and other tool-tempted galoots:

Gary wrote:

  "OH, I saw a nice boxed set of 6 or 8 Goldenbergs there for $190 (!) about ten
years back, and almost bought 'em. REALLY Nice chisels: the only thing that
stopped me is I never spent that much for ANY tool, in my life."

This is a faulty application of Galoot Logic !!! You clearly would not be
spending $190 on a tool. Rather, you'd be spending $23.75 eight times or $31.67
six times!

It's only money. You'll earn more. Much more likely to get joy out of using
Goldenberg chisels than the $190 of money.

Decades ago, I bought a complete, but for the nicker spurs, Stanley #55 at an
estate sale for $50.  Staring at its nickel-plated gizmocity, I said to my
father "Why the heck did I buy this thing? It's not very practical!" Pop said
"John, you will spend $50 many times in your life and not even remember what you
spent it on! THIS $50, you WILL remember!"

(I've used it only once or twice after buying reproduction nickers from St.
James Bay Tool Co. But, yes, that was a most memorable $50.)

Do not become a victim of non-buyers remorse! One of America's great tool
collectors once told me "You will regret the things you didn't buy more than the
things you did buy. If you buy "wrongly," you can get back at least part of the
money by re-selling it. If you pass it up, you might never get another chance,
ever!"

You can find my tales of non-buyer's remorse in the archives.

I scored a minty extremely narrow Greenlee paring chisel at today's Flea. $2,
less than a cup of take-out coffee. It's only about 1/8 or 5/32 inch wide.

This is tempered by the fact that I left behind a plastic-handled chisel with a
shallow triangle cross section. The vendor had wanted $5, which turned me off
because I'd just bought the Greenlee for $2. I didn't recognize it as a
dovetail-trimming chisel!!!  I can be such a Dumbkopf at times!

John Ruth
Who has never seen a Goldenberg chisel in the wild.
274712 gary allan may 2021‑10‑17 Re: Stanley Goldenberg Chisels
Nice hearing from you John Ruth ---I have all the chisels I need, and most of a
set of C E Jennings that's built upon a boxed set of 8 butt chisels that
belonged to my Grandfather---I don't need the Goldenbergs, but they were sure
beautiful, and seemed very well designed. Is G'berg just another family company
bought out by Satanley?  I don't regret *not* buying very many tools, and yet, I
DO appreciate the reminder---you can always make more money, but they're not
making any more C E Jennings tools. Speaking of which, where did Josh land on
his gent's toolkit from them? He clammed up when I told him I have the handle
for the 'nest of saws'...
                  best to all galoots--gam in OlyWA


How horrible it is to have so many people killed!---And what a blessing one
cares for none of them!
Jane Austen 

    On Saturday, October 16, 2021, 08:02:15 PM PDT, John Ruth 
wrote:
 
 Gary and other tool-tempted galoots:

Gary wrote:

  "OH, I saw a nice boxed set of 6 or 8 Goldenbergs there for $190 (!) about ten
years back, and almost bought 'em. REALLY Nice chisels: the only thing that
stopped me is I never spent that much for ANY tool, in my life."

This is a faulty application of Galoot Logic !!! You clearly would not be
spending $190 on a tool. Rather, you'd be spending $23.75 eight times or $31.67
six times!

It's only money. You'll earn more. Much more likely to get joy out of using
Goldenberg chisels than the $190 of money.

Decades ago, I bought a complete, but for the nicker spurs, Stanley #55 at an
estate sale for $50.  Staring at its nickel-plated gizmocity, I said to my
father "Why the heck did I buy this thing? It's not very practical!" Pop said
"John, you will spend $50 many times in your life and not even remember what you
spent it on! THIS $50, you WILL remember!"

(I've used it only once or twice after buying reproduction nickers from St.
James Bay Tool Co. But, yes, that was a most memorable $50.)

Do not become a victim of non-buyers remorse! One of America's great tool
collectors once told me "You will regret the things you didn't buy more than the
things you did buy. If you buy "wrongly," you can get back at least part of the
money by re-selling it. If you pass it up, you might never get another chance,
ever!"

You can find my tales of non-buyer's remorse in the archives.

I scored a minty extremely narrow Greenlee paring chisel at today's Flea. $2,
less than a cup of take-out coffee. It's only about 1/8 or 5/32 inch wide.

This is tempered by the fact that I left behind a plastic-handled chisel with a
shallow triangle cross section. The vendor had wanted $5, which turned me off
because I'd just bought the Greenlee for $2. I didn't recognize it as a
dovetail-trimming chisel!!!  I can be such a Dumbkopf at times!

John Ruth
Who has never seen a Goldenberg chisel in the wild.

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