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269791 Erik Levin 2020‑01‑26 Fleabagging, finally
It has been a while, between work and weather, but today I got an hour to hit a
flea. It wasn't a big crowd, and it was more a nice walk than anything else, but
I found two nice pieces, one a collectable, the other a user.
First the user: B&S 620 surface gauge, "HARDENED", as cute a tiny tool as one
can see. It had no scribe or scribe snug, but I happen to have a matching part
from a later unit in stock. This is in much, much better shape than the 'A'
version I have, and is a bit older. I'd guess mid-1920's by the catalogs and
other tools I have. The only thing I need to do to make it a true user is make
the friction washer (why are they always missing?) for the fine-adjust end. I
may even have the correct double-Dee  broach for the hole. If not, I can make
one.https://i.postimg.cc/j5
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https://i.postimg.cc/wTFvDwnY/IMG-1270.png
https://i.postimg.cc/SKYxFkRm/IMG-1271.png


Second, the collector: Stanley Rule and Level No. 84 folding rule. I Can't find
any type study that I can find photos of in about an hour of avoiding
work--^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H-- searching the web. Does a type study exist?
or was there so little variation before the 1920's that there is only one type?
This is not a user, unfortunately, as the wood is quite warped. Sure is pretty,
though.
https://i.postimg.cc/7YqhCFsN/IMG-1266.png
https://i.postimg.cc/9QnQnrWx/IMG-1267.png
https://i.postimg.cc/G2k3tKvN/IMG-1268.png


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269792 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2020‑01‑27 Re: Fleabagging, finally
Eric

Walters is pertty old by now - 1996 - but I find he is still good for relative
rarity. The #84 is listed at $5-25, the lowest set of numbers he uses, so it
must not be too rare.  Even the lowly 62 is higher.

If you mean giving dates for the various logos, Walter doesn’t have anything
besides saying that the business was called the Stanley Rule and Level company
until 1920 when the Sweethart logo cam in.  I looked in Phil Stanley;s   Boxwood
and Ivory  and he notes that the “USA” was added but does not give a dat. There
was a change in 1879 that probably menas yours is before that, so 1858-1879??
Very unsatisfying chapter 3, on page 31

Ed Minch
269793 Erik Levin 2020‑01‑27 Re: Fleabagging, finally
Thank you much for the information. 

I paid $US5, so, given condition, it is a reasonable 1990' price. About my limit
for a non-user, though I might go to $US20 for a #1 plane in recognizable
condition.

I knew pre-1920 by the name, but could find nothing in a quick search to narrow
it more. Not that it is critical, as it is not a pristine example and I have
seen better, though for a price I have no interest in paying ($ to $25 in 1996
does not equate with $US100 today for a well worn tool, which I also saw today.
Same guy that wanted $250 for a 16# fisher anvil with a well-worn face and
spalled edges)

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    On Sunday, January 26, 2020, 7:27:48 PM EST, Ed Minch  wrote:
 
 Eric
Walters is pertty old by now - 1996 - but I find he is still good for relative
rarity. The #84 is listed at $5-25, the lowest set of numbers he uses, so it
must not be too rare.  Even the lowly 62 is higher.
If you mean giving dates for the various logos, Walter doesn’t have anything
besides saying that the business was called the Stanley Rule and Level company
until 1920 when the Sweethart logo cam in.  I looked in Phil Stanley;s   Boxwood
and Ivory  and he notes that the “USA” was added but does not give a dat. There
was a change in 1879 that probably menas yours is before that, so 1858-1879??
Very unsatisfying chapter 3, on page 31
Ed Minch


On Jan 26, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Erik Levin via OldTools  wrote:
Second, the collector: Stanley Rule and Level No. 84 folding rule. I Can't find
any type study that I can find photos of in about an hour of avoiding
work--^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H-- searching the web. Does a type study exist?
or was there so little variation before the 1920's that there is only one type?
This is not a user, unfortunately, as the wood is quite warped. Sure is pretty,
though.
https://i.postimg.cc/7YqhCFsN/IMG-1266.png
https://i.postimg.cc/9QnQnrWx/IMG-1267.png
https://i.postimg.cc/G2k3tKvN/IMG-1268.png
269794 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2020‑01‑27 Re: Fleabagging, finally
I paid $4 for a Stanley 12-3/4 scraper plane from my very old neighbor in the
ate 90’s.  He was a floor finsiher and this was a tool his dad got him when he
was a teenager in the 30’s’s - it has a sweetheart knob on it.  Actually I also
got 12-1/2 at $4,and both were absolute dogmeat - been beat to death and never
cleaned.  The 12-3/4 is the amazingly rare one that is very easy to counterfit
because it is marked 12-1/2, but has a 1” wide mouth instead of a 3/4”(?).  The
big difference is the blocks that the base sit on - they have to be a certain
way with certain screws to prove its provenance.  Well this guy’s provenance was
long gone, however, it had the 1” throat and he told me he never touched the
throat.  So I have one, but I can't prove it.  In good shape could be worth 2
grand, as is, maybe $3

Ed

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