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268704 "Ed O'" <edo@e...> 2019‑06‑17 Help with identifying a hammer
I picked up a hammer like tool a couple of weeks ago and cannot find it in "The
Hammer - The King of Tools" book by Ron Baird and am unsure what it is for,
anybody know?

See here:

https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2281.jpg
https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2283.jpg
https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2284.jpg
https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2285.jpg

Here's how I would describe it: One face is about 7/8 square with the waffling
you see on a meat tenderizer (at 7/8 square I am thinking too small for a meat
tenderizer).  Other end has a curved pick on it.  Has what I think are ground
casting lines on each side.  Top of head is machined very smooth with a slight
concavity to it.  Handle is the shape I would associate with a ball peen hammer,
good patina on it and properly wedged and fitted so looks original.

As I said, I don't think it is a meat tenderizer (too small a face and what is
the pick for?).  I thought maybe stone work, but I would think it would be more
deformed from use.  Maybe for dealing with blocks of ice, but I would think the
pick would be straight instead of curved.

Seems too small for a climbing hammer.  Snow knockers usually have clips at end.

Ed O'
268705 Spike Cornelius <spikethebike@c...> 2019‑06‑17 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
My guess is silversmithing. 

 Best, Spike 

Sent from the seat of my pants
268706 Spike Cornelius <spikethebike@c...> 2019‑06‑17 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
Or leather work. ;-)

Sent from the seat of my pants
268707 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2019‑06‑17 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
On 2019-06-17 1:19 p.m., Ed O' wrote:
> I picked up a hammer like tool a couple of weeks ago and cannot find it in
"The Hammer - The King of Tools" book by Ron Baird and am unsure what it is for,
anybody know?
>
> See here:
>
> https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2281.jpg
> https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2283.jpg
> https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2284.jpg
> https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2285.jpg
>
> Here's how I would describe it: One face is about 7/8 square with the waffling
you see on a meat tenderizer (at 7/8 square I am thinking too small for a meat
tenderizer).  Other end has a curved pick on it.

If it weren't for the waffling, I'd say it's a rock pick, a type of 
geologists' hammer.

FWIW

Don

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268708 Bob Page 2019‑06‑17 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
Ed,
It is a shrinking hammer used to smooth out stretched metal on automobile body
work.
Google it and you'll see a number of examples with diamond and swirl patterns on
the hammer face.
Bob PageIn da U.P. of Michigan

    On Monday, June 17, 2019, 3:23:29 PM EDT, Ed O'  wrote:  
 
 I picked up a hammer like tool a couple of weeks ago and cannot find it in "The
Hammer - The King of Tools" book by Ron Baird and am unsure what it is for,
anybody know?

See here:

https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2281.jpg
https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2283.jpg
https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2284.jpg
https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2285.jpg

Here's how I would describe it: One face is about 7/8 square with the waffling
you see on a meat tenderizer (at 7/8 square I am thinking too small for a meat
tenderizer).  Other end has a curved pick on it.  Has what I think are ground
casting lines on each side.  Top of head is machined very smooth with a slight
concavity to it.  Handle is the shape I would associate with a ball peen hammer,
good patina on it and properly wedged and fitted so looks original.

As I said, I don't think it is a meat tenderizer (too small a face and what is
the pick for?).  I thought maybe stone work, but I would think it would be more
deformed from use.  Maybe for dealing with blocks of ice, but I would think the
pick would be straight instead of curved.

Seems too small for a climbing hammer.  Snow knockers usually have clips at end.

Ed O'
268710 Erik Levin 2019‑06‑17 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
Bob wrote:
> It is a shrinking hammer used to smooth out stretched metal on automobile body
work.
Quite possible, but that wasn't my first thought.


My first though was a stone masons hammer. The shrinking hammers I have seen
generally have larger faces, and I have never seen one with a pick on one end
(which only  means I have never seen one, not that they don't exist). Stone
hammers I have used have smaller faces like this one, not wider than the body,
and sometimes have a sharp or round pick end.


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268712 Mike Rock <mikerock@m...> 2019‑06‑17 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
I went through stone masons and sculptors hammers and none had the 
opposing point.  Also the outside row of points on the bush face are too 
weak for stone use, soft or hard rock.
I spent a summer working on Crazy Horse and saw all of Korczak's hand 
tools in the studio.  Also saw chunks of Carrera marble the size of two 
Volkswagon vans end to end.  Those were some beautiful chunks of rock!  
He taught me basic sculpture for the heck of it. Fun man, had a heck of 
a life.
268713 Anthony Seo 2019‑06‑17 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
On 6/17/2019 3:19 PM, Ed O' wrote:
> I picked up a hammer like tool a couple of weeks ago and cannot find it in
"The Hammer - The King of Tools" book by Ron Baird and am unsure what it is for,
anybody know?
>
> See here:
>
> https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2281.jpg

That is a welder's slag chipping hammer, very common around here and 
they are still being made.

Tony (.........)


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268714 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2019‑06‑17 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
On 2019-06-17 2:01 p.m., Bob Page via OldTools wrote:
> It is a shrinking hammer used to smooth out stretched metal on automobile body
work.
> Google it and you'll see a number of examples with diamond and swirl patterns
on the hammer face.
> Bob PageIn da U.P. of Michigan


But none of the images G found me showed a curved pick. Curved chisels, 
straight picks, but no curved picks.

FWIW

Don

-- 
People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who
do. -  Isaac Asimov

Nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect. - unknown

Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.
Thomas Paine

Being offended doesn't make you right.
268716 Nick Jonkman <njonkman@x...> 2019‑06‑17 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
I have been welding for about 60 years and have never seen a chipping 
hammer with a flat or diamond cut face as you see here and the point is 
too thick as well. In my opinion that thing would be useless for a 
welder. A chipping hammer require a chisel edge and sharp point As a 
shrinking hammer the face is too small and the checkering too course you 
would quickly destroy the sheet metal with that thing. I also have 60 
years experience with that work as well. It is not for a welder and not 
for body work. I cannot guess what it might really be for.

Nick
268717 David Wittner <dwittne@u...> 2019‑06‑18 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
I believe that’s a shrinking hammer. 

DGW

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268718 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2019‑06‑18 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
I've done very little welding, but I worked in a steel plant where there 
were dozens of welders and welders' chipping hammers. I agree totally 
with Nick.

FWIW
Don

On 2019-06-17 5:35 p.m., Nick Jonkman wrote:
> I have been welding for about 60 years and have never seen a chipping 
> hammer with a flat or diamond cut face as you see here and the point 
> is too thick as well. In my opinion that thing would be useless for a 
> welder. A chipping hammer require a chisel edge and sharp point As a 
> shrinking hammer the face is too small and the checkering too course 
> you would quickly destroy the sheet metal with that thing. I also have 
> 60 years experience with that work as well. It is not for a welder and 
> not for body work. I cannot guess what it might really be for.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On 19-06-17 5:54 PM, Anthony Seo via OldTools wrote:
>> On 6/17/2019 3:19 PM, Ed O' wrote:
>>> I picked up a hammer like tool a couple of weeks ago and cannot find 
>>> it in "The Hammer - The King of Tools" book by Ron Baird and am 
>>> unsure what it is for, anybody know?
>>>
>>> See here:
>>>
>>> https://www.edoii.com/auction/Hammer/img_2281.jpg
>>
>> That is a welder's slag chipping hammer, very common around here and 
>> they are still being made.
>>
>> Tony (.........)
>>
>>
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Nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect. - unknown

Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.
Thomas Paine

Being offended doesn't make you right.
268719 Erik Levin 2019‑06‑18 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
I've done a fair bit of welding (shipyard, tank, and industrial, but not
pipeline) over the last 35 years since the trade classes, and have never seen a
bush-faced slag hammer.


Google "bush hammer with pick" and quite similar hammers show, intended for
stone work. I will go with my first thought that it is intended for stone work.



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268720 mick dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> 2019‑06‑18 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
That's a thumb hitting hammer. Come in a wide variety of patterns.

Mick Dowling
Melbourne Australia

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ed O'" 
To: OldTools@s...
Sent: Tuesday, 18 Jun, 2019 At 5:19 AM
Subject: [OldTools] Help with identifying a hammer

I picked up a hammer like tool a couple of weeks ago and cannot find it 
in "The Hammer - The King of Tools" book by Ron Baird and am unsure what 
it is for, anybody know?
268721 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2019‑06‑18 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
That particular form is known as a thumb-waffling hammer. Here in 
Canada, it's lubrificated with maple syrup!

Don

On 2019-06-17 9:46 p.m., mick dowling wrote:
> That's a thumb hitting hammer. Come in a wide variety of patterns.
>
> Mick Dowling
> Melbourne Australia
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Ed O'" 
> To: OldTools@s...
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 Jun, 2019 At 5:19 AM
> Subject: [OldTools] Help with identifying a hammer
>
> I picked up a hammer like tool a couple of weeks ago and cannot find 
> it in "The Hammer - The King of Tools" book by Ron Baird and am unsure 
> what it is for, anybody know?


-- 
People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who
do. -  Isaac Asimov

Nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect. - unknown

Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.
Thomas Paine

Being offended doesn't make you right.
268746 W Pickens <ws.pickens@w...> 2019‑06‑25 Re: Help with identifying a hammer
Looks like a stone hammer to me
Sam

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