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268316 | Matthew Groves <grovesthegrey@g...> | 2019‑04‑22 | Are bark spuds made from tool steel? |
Are bark spuds made from tool steel? Matthew Groves Springfield MO |
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268317 | Anthony Seo | 2019‑04‑22 | Re: Are bark spuds made from tool steel? |
On 4/22/2019 6:43 PM, Matthew Groves wrote: > Are bark spuds made from tool steel? The older ones had steel heads or bits with wrought iron bodies. But the later ones probably were made out of all steel. Tony (just anudder day) -- Facebook https://www.facebook.com/tonyseomusic Old River Hard Goods http://oldetoolshop.com/ |
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268319 | scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> | 2019‑04‑22 | Re: Are bark spuds made from tool steel? |
The older ones had steel heads or bits with wrought iron bodies. But the later ones probably were made out of all steel. I once had a bark spud made from OTS, old truck spring. It was not correct in any way, lol, and I ended up giving it way. There are certain conditions that make a classic bark spud desirable. But most of the time either a drawknife, which can be operated very quickly when you get it down. Support the pole at about waist high between sawbucks and use it bevel down. Or my latest favorite, a common square ended garden spade. The spades have sufficient hardness to take a pretty rugged edge, and when you get the right bevel on the blade and angle of attack with the handle? They can just fly down a pole, with the bark exploding into the air. Its pretty fun and the fastest I have ever peeled a pole, that's for sure. And they are certainly no trouble at all to get. yours Scott -- ******************************* Scott Grandstaff Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca 96039 scottg@s... http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/ http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html |
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268320 | Mike Rock <mikerock@m...> | 2019‑04‑22 | Re: Are bark spuds made from tool steel? |
The two I have both have welded steel working bits. I had one in the early '70's that was an old spring, repurposed by a blacksmith named Einar Oin, from Rapid City. I later bought my first anvil, a Swedish steel one, swage block and a few tongs from him. He taught me how to harden and temper mining picks. The side of the anvil was the testing ground. Little square holes all over from checking the hardness and toughness, by hitting the side. There were a few of the holes that had mill pick tips still in them......those failed and were reground a tad, then tempered a little more. Found a few hundred tongs at old mining sites in the Hills. One, in the remains of the ghost town Spokane, had a hundred all by itself.. The calendar was on the wall, 1941......mine closed due to war and never reopened. When they were building all the Minuteman silos around that part of the country Einar had the contract to sharpen all the air hammer chisels that they cleaned up the cast concrete silos with. By the TON.... I sharpened my share of those for him when going to college at the School of Mines. God bless. |
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268693 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2019‑06‑16 | Re: Making Oars |
What are the boats used for? Looks like life guard work. Lovely oars - is that a traditional shape? How does the oarlock work? Is that green plane a custom colored one? A couple of makers have used that green - I think even Record had a special bench plane for a time in that color. Ed Minch |
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268700 | "yorkshireman@y..." <yorkshireman@y...> | 2019‑06‑17 | Re: Making Oars |
Ed asks… lots of questions... used for enjoyment. The St Ayles skiff is a very traditional shetland boat design ‘re-imagined for the 21st century’ (my words) It is a class boat, all built from the same CNC prepared kits of 8x4 marine ply plus a few bits of real timber for the hog, keel, stem and stern, gunwhales. The Scottish Fisheries Museum who started it wanted something traditional, that could be used to encourage coastal communities to take to the sea in row boars again. Of course, there’s some competition - look up ‘skiffs Stranraer’ but to be honest, these are not racing boats. Put 10 men in a bar and someone is bound to say ‘We can go faster than you’ and so they do. The great thing is that anyone without wood skills can make one, and can compete, if that’s their choice, with others, else just go rowing on the sea for the pleasure of being out there. Excellent sea boat, as It’s double ended, so no transom to get pooped, and tall enough to keep (most of) the sea out if it gets lumpy. Oar shape - they are pretty traditional for sweeps at sea. Wide modern blades - shopper style - are not good for amateurs in a rough sea. The class rules state no curved (spoon) blades, and they must be symmetrical about the centre line. Oar locks must not be metal, so a feathering oar is, well, difficult. Most are rowed with pins and plates, the original design called for kabes, but I think most crews are not accustomed to rowing with an oar which can slide in and outboard, so some sort of lock is usual. That lock allows 4 gears. The thole pin goes through one of the slots, and acts as keeper for the oar, whilst allowing articulation up and down, back and forth. The one I made for the ‘test’ oar had 3 gears. Four may be overkill, but the club primarily wants oars they can use for social rowing with beginners of any height and weight. Green plane? - My personal kit. Workshop colours are green and something off white I found in a tin. Record did change from RAF roundel blue to a dark green for their CS88 smoother, the last hoorah of quality when Martin Calvert and Mel Stevens got together to produce something from the old days - heavy casting, Norris mechanism. I have a number of them…. Lovely plane in the hand. |
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268702 | scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> | 2019‑06‑17 | Re: Making Oars |
You thought you were going to get away without telling the story? heeheh Its an ash shaft with an oak handle? The shafts are drilled for handle tenons? Why is this more desirable that one piece ash handles? How big are the tenons and is there a special way to drill out the holes for them? Where do you get >14 foot long ash blanks? Is warpage common? What kind of glue makes the blade parts and what kind of cedar is strong enough for life and death service? Do you keep an extra oar aboard in case of disaster? These seem like awfully long oars, to me. Of course I am more used to seeing oars on lake or river boats. This is an ocean thing that works better? yours Scott If we have to pump the story out like an old farmhouse pump........ heehheh -- ******************************* Scott Grandstaff Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca 96039 scottg@s... http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/ http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html |
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268722 | Michael Suwczinsky <nicknaylo@g...> | 2019‑06‑19 | Re: Making Oars |
Great looking boats! Michael-currently on another armchair boatbuilding jaunt. On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 11:28 AM scott grandstaff |
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268723 | Bill Ghio | 2019‑06‑19 | Re: Making Oars, boat building hijack |
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:45 PM, Michael Suwczinsky |
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268724 | Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> | 2019‑06‑19 | Re: Making Oars, boat building hijack |
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 9:43 PM, Bill Ghio via OldTools |
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