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265151 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2018‑02‑17 Amalgamator and Amalgamator Solvent
Is anyone familiar with these products? Would you recommend them?

I have a cedar chest with an alligator finish.

Don

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265153 "yorkshireman@y..." <yorkshireman@y...> 2018‑02‑17 Re: Amalgamator and Amalgamator Solvent
FWIW  I’ve never been successful dealing with that sort of failed finish - but
it depends on how bad it is of course.
I’m all ears to hear how it works..


Richard Wilson
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265154 Ed Minch <ruby1638@a...> 2018‑02‑17 Re: Amalgamator and Amalgamator Solvent
Don

If it is lacquer, it is not too difficult with any number of chemicals.  The
problem is getting large flat surfaces to look good.  Here is one of the great-
grand-daddys of guitar repair talking about amalgamating lacquer

http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier/Technique/Finish/Lacquer/Amalga
mator/amalgamator1.html">http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier/Technique/Finis
h/Lacquer/Amalgamator/amalgamator1.html <http://www.frets.com/Frets
Pages/Luthier/Technique/Finish/Lacquer/Amalgamator/amalgamator1.html">http://www
.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier/Technique/Finish/Lacquer/Amalgamator/amalgamator1.
html>


Ed Minch
265155 "John M Johnston (jmjhnstn)" <jmjhnstn@m...> 2018‑02‑17 Re: Amalgamator and Amalgamator Solvent
http://www.mohawk-finishing.com/catalog_browse.asp?ictNbr=137

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On Feb 17, 2018, at 12:42 AM, Don Schwartz mailto:dks@t...>> wrote:


Is anyone familiar with these products? Would you recommend them?

I have a cedar chest with an alligator finish.
265157 Brent A Kinsey <brentpmed@c...> 2018‑02‑17 Re: Amalgamator and Amalgamator Solvent
John, 
I would check the cedar chest somewhere in the back near the bottom with some
alcohol.  The old craftsman made cedar chest I inherited was made from western
red cedar in the '30's and was finished with shellac. I was able to clean it
well with mineral spirits to get 80 years of furniture wax and polish off of it,
lightly scuff sand by hand with 320 grit and wipe on a couple of 1 pound cut
layers of amber shellac and it melted right into the old shellac finish, evened
everything out and looked great.  Getting the built up wax off is important or
the shellac will fish-eye like crazy and won't melt into the old shellac.

Depending on the age and manufacturer you might find shellac there instead of
lacquer, get lucky and be able to rejuvenate the shellac finish.

YMMV, 

Good luck with it!

Brent K.

Brent A Kinsey
265156 Claudio DeLorenzi <admin@d...> 2018‑02‑17 Re: Amalgamator and Amalgamator Solvent
"Alligator finish"
I may be the only one who doesn't know what this means.  Can you elaborate
a bit?  Is it bubbled,  or maybe cracked and partially peeling off,  or
just a lumpy application?  Or, is it maybe real alligator leather?
Claudio
265159 Brent A Kinsey <brentpmed@c...> 2018‑02‑17 Re: Amalgamator and Amalgamator Solvent
Claudio, 
When I think of "alligator" cracking, is is a deterioration in what ever finish
was used on the piece, it is cracked and crazed, almost like cross checking
which kind of resembles rough lizard skin...hence the name "alligator" or
crocodile.

Here is a link with some good examples:  http://www.fullchisel.com/albu
rnam22.htm">http://www.fullchisel.com/alburnam22.htm

Hope this helps

Brent A Kinsey
265158 Claudio DeLorenzi <claudio@d...> 2018‑02‑17 Re: Amalgamator and Amalgamator Solvent
Great thanks!  Learned something new... I thought you might be describing a
crazed finish (#11 in the book link) , and I didn't know alligatoring was
an "official" term (example 14 in the book link in your message).
  Thanks again for going to the trouble to find that link, appreciate it!
Cheers,
Claudio


On Feb 17, 2018 12:19 PM, "Brent A Kinsey"  wrote:

Claudio,
When I think of "alligator" cracking, is is a deterioration in what ever
finish was used on the piece, it is cracked and crazed, almost like cross
checking which kind of resembles rough lizard skin...hence the name
"alligator" or crocodile.

Here is a link with some good examples:  http://www.fullchisel.com/
alburnam22.htm

Hope this helps

Brent A Kinsey


On Feb 17, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Claudio DeLorenzi  wrote:

"Alligator finish"
I may be the only one who doesn't know what this means.  Can you elaborate
a bit?  Is it bubbled,  or maybe cracked and partially peeling off,  or
just a lumpy application?  Or, is it maybe real alligator leather?
Claudio
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265160 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2018‑02‑17 Re: Amalgamator and Amalgamator Solvent
Wow! That is the most detailed classification of finish defects I've 
ever seen.

Don

On 2018-02-17 10:19 AM, Brent A Kinsey wrote:
> Claudio,
> When I think of "alligator" cracking, is is a deterioration in what 
> ever finish was used on the piece, it is cracked and crazed, almost 
> like cross checking which kind of resembles rough lizard skin...hence 
> the name "alligator" or crocodile.
>
> Here is a link with some good examples: 
> http://www.fullchisel.com/alburnam22.htm
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Brent A Kinsey
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Claudio DeLorenzi  <mailto:admin@d...>> wrote:
>
>> "Alligator finish"
>> I may be the only one who doesn't know what this means.  Can you 
>> elaborate
>> a bit?  Is it bubbled,  or maybe cracked and partially peeling off,  or
>> just a lumpy application?  Or, is it maybe real alligator leather?
>> Claudio
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